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Most of you have probably heard the news about Tokyopop closing it's doors (There was a nice short article on The Beat about it yesterday!) and thought about the possible impact it might have on some of the titles stuck in limbo since they were canceled, including Dan Hipp's Gyakushu, Brandon Graham's King City, Ross Campbell's The Abandoned, and my East Coast Rising. I obviously have mixed feelings about this, because while I was working on my book I had a pretty good time, but after canceling my second book 120 pages in I obviously still have some bitter feelings- and their closing does make me excited that I might be able to one day finish the story. Of course the hard part is if that time ever comes, I'm pretty booked for work, and my style and storytelling has changed so much- it will definitely be a challenge to pick up again! But a challenge that I'd be happy to step up to, if the time comes.

Tokyopop gave me a huge opportunity to publish my first solo graphic novel, one that paid off with an Eisner nomination for Best New Series, and as a finalist in the first International Manga Award. The book might be silly and a bit juvenile, but I still look back and remember how fun it was to draw, and all the good times I had working on it. It's also nice to look back on TP's early influence, breaking into book stores and opening up a section of the market that was until then impenetrable. They took chances on new creators, and for a while they had a great team of editors, writers and artists working for them!

A lot of people blame TP's downfall on Borders closing- though I want to talk about something different, about how they stopped being a publisher and started being an IP hoarder. To be a successful publisher I would have thought you'd have to make publishing a priority- and by canceling so many books and concentrating harder on their media developments over the promotion and production of the comics they published, they signed their own death warrant.

That's not to say it's bad to cultivate options for a property outside of comics, but it seemed, for my book and from my perspective at least, that they put zero effort into marketing East Coast Rising. I had issues with the design of the book that went unheard. I even heard that they didn't stock my comic in many stores. I felt like they were more excited when my book garnered attention from animation and video game companies than when it got an Eisner nomination. To me, I don't really care about media rights. Money is great and everything, but I'm in it to make a good book. And I think that's where our interests were divided.

Maybe my work was so different from the manga that they produced, that they didn't know what to do with it, or how to market and sell it- but that didn't stop it from getting an Eisner nom, some great reviews, and international acclaim from Japan. It even had a few foreign language editions including Italian and Finnish. Obviously it had potential to get traction, but somehow it missed the mark. It makes me think the book would have done better at a different publisher.

Tim Beedle, my editor on this book, was lovely. I also worked with Fawn Lau as a letterer, and she was great too! I can't just point my finger wildly around at the company and place blame on everyone, or a single person- some amazing individuals worked there! But the truth is there were some weird decisions being made. And as a creator, even though my editor was great, I never felt like I was important to the company, and that on the whole, my book didn't matter. I didn't feel looked after. And I guess my feelings were justified when they canceled my book with no warning. I even went to their office for a meeting to try and get the print rights back, or just get them to print it again- well I bet you can guess what answer I got.

Maybe TP just went around things wrong. If Stu Levy wanted to make a media company, I feel like he should have started it that way instead of trying to get into movies and other media through comics. That notion has always seemed backwards to me- if you want to make a movie, fucking just make a movie! It might not be easy, but it makes a lot more sense than making comics to make movies. That's like making cookies and hoping they will turn into a cake in the oven!

So yeah, I guess that's all I have to say. I'm excited at the prospect of maybe finishing my book, so it's bittersweet feeling to see TP go (although everyone I know who worked there was already gone...). I feel a little selfish being excited about that, but hey. I'm allowed to be selfish sometimes. I honestly don't have any hard feelings, but I do have some advice for Stu Levy: Next time you make a company, make sure the initials don't also stand for Toilet Paper.

**Originally posted at Ink and Thunder
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:iconjamiefayx:
=JamieFayX Apr 20, 2011  Professional General Artist
so do you and ross get the rights to your characters back?
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:iconyuzi:
I always wondered what was happening with Tokyo Pop...I was really excited to see The Abandoned & then your East Coast Rising comic, but then wondered if there was a pattern of not releasing a second volume for each of the comics. The whole, "What's the fucking deal, bro?".

I'm sure you've been asked this before, but have you considered publishing a book through Oni? I mean, Ross seems to like it (from where I'm looking at things as a fan/reader) so, has it ever crossed your mind?
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*Inkthinker Apr 18, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
Nicely said. I also worry when publishers are more concerned with developing an IP's revenue streams over the content of the IP itself. It's a sign that someone somewhere is missing the point; good content develops revenue streams much more easily, sometimes it almost seems to do it on its own. But it's got to be good in the first place. An Eisner is a far better sign of that quality than any poking interest by another Big Shot Producer.

Does it seem likely that you or the others will get your print rights back (scuttlebutt says they plan to hold onto the media development rights, but word on print publishing is scarce) anytime soon? Is there an expiry date on the agreement, so that at least we might hope for that? I was happy as hell to get King City in any form... what odd for printing in a periodical rather than a collected book, as Graham did?
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:iconmorthonkdgoblinator:
it seems like that kind of thing's happening with a lot of media companies these days. Cartoon Network's picking up shows and then dropping them...all sorts of stuff like that everywhere.
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:iconmrplaid81:
~MrPlaid81 Apr 17, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Guess I dodged a bullet by not being good enough to be picked.
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:iconfrankrmb:
*FrankRMB Apr 17, 2011  Student General Artist
I agree with you upon how is it they wanted to grasp more into the media then into the books. Popularity and money does feel good sometimes, but they became way greedy. If they wanted the manga there to become a video game or movie or something, then perhaps they should've done that then!

Despite me never having a comic or book being published, due to me being an amateur and still stuck in ditzy high school of course, I know that having your series published is a huge win from a gamble of "this" and "that", but with TP, I felt that it was a gamble with them trying to see who would become the most popular media wise, instead of focusing skill and style wise.

Hope your printing rights are back to you though! I wanna read more of your comics!
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:iconmikehaff:
So does that mean you got your print rights back to your stories then? I don't know the business end of this stuff at all. It sounds like you got your rights back. It would suck to have your property sink with the ship.
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:iconthe-bluephoenix:
~the-BluePhoenix Apr 17, 2011  Professional Artist
I worked on 4 books with Tokyopop including being the People's Choice award winner for RSoM5 and I noticed that they went thru editors like toilet paper. I worked with a lot of good people there but the pay wasn't the greatest and it was slow to get to you and after a while they just stopped using me as well as a lot of other artists. That's okay though, they gave me the chance to break in but now it's on to better things in the industry
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~Megadarren Apr 17, 2011  Professional General Artist
Toilet paper lol It's sad that they messed you around, I guess some people sometimes cannot see the diamond in the rough :S
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:iconnightmarehound:
Oh, so it was your book? I do remember reading the review of the first book in a Finnish sci-fi/fantasy magazine but never managed to find the first book later and wondered why there never were a second mention of the series.
Well, I hope we'll see the second book in some form!
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